- John John Winning Bells Beach Surfing Contest 2019
John John Florence potential usual rich American ripe red neck beating brown Brazilian Filipe Toledo, in the final, I don't know, there sure are some ugly racist nationalism going on in the professional surfing fan world, at the same time, importantly obscuring the fact that what is also being debated, contested is the very nature of surfing, the 'what' is surfing. For I feel that with this collective judges decision, they have voted for surfing to be skateboarding.
Toledo was the more dynamic more creative the more in tune with the ocean and his surfing surfer. Predicting what this guy was going to do every time he bottom turned, was impossible. I found myself stunned, met with a dropped jaw, several times because of his inventive engagement, uncanny ability, skill (Medina too! Yes he was robbed by the judges here too! Again consistent with their ideology, surfing is skateboarding)
John John is incredibly predictable. Smooth nice to look at, especially in the barrel he is special, but his rate of surprise is I'd state 1/10 of Toledo or Medina. 1 piece of surprise, to their ten. Ok maybe not quite that high, it's still I'd say over 5 times, easily between 5 and ten times. John John has a well timed arc, his three layback snaps and has pulled historically some sick airs, this is to be clear, this is not about their nationality, colour or economic status, this is about two styles, two highly competing and completely opposite styles pf expression, of play. And it's not that Toledo or Medina can't also be shown to have played similar styles as John John, it is a part of contemporary surfing. But does it need some balance.
Skateboarding has always been an accurate, trick to acrobatic trick, precise run. It is about whether or not you are going to fall off during the trick that is the deal, Everyone knows that you are doing the trick, you've just practiced it ten times. Surfing is at best a wild and free expression of letting go intune. You don't have to be intune sometime detachment works, however approached like this filling in a pre-made box with no box for risk and new creative responses to ready situations is missing a core value for me. What is being celebrated, real talent to ride a wave, or real talent to ride a wall? There is a difference. Some can see it. Want to see it.
So John John, an out and out skate park, ramp enthusiast, champion if not one of the great instigators of skating the wave, surly we are seeing a scoring system that is preferential to his style of surfing, whose predictability enable sit to score more consistently, numbers drop into place, rather than we are see in what I enjoy of surfing, it's inventive spontaneity. It's all surfing, don't let me sound bitter, I accept skating's total right to be here, I'm exploring the right for that to be discussed, for what it means when the best surfer is not rewarded, the best is that which fits the ease of managing the rules.
Seems like compared to skating surfers, surfer surfers were, are a bit messy. Difficult to judge, open to too much subjective reasoning. This agonistic gesture on behalf of the surfers rejection of society for the rhythms and servitude to the weather and oceans charms. I consider myself as a Political Artist, a known critic of capitalism, a practicing socialist, part of this tradition, of surfing.
I feel that I am looking at a branch of the activity that wants to be an Olympic event. The predictability of the future of surfing is the very point that will allow it to be an Olympic sport. This of course is the true goal of Kelly Slater, right? The Greatest of All Time, eleven time world champion, was not given a gold medal. And now he has built his Olympic wave pool, for qualifying. It's a real dream coming true.
And I want to support their right to do it, not at the expense of what I want to see in surfing. As a surfer and a Snowboarder, and a huge fan of the Winter Olympics, I never watch it. It's all too commercial it, feels bought from the beginning, like it's all been arranged, with advertisers, who wins, who cries, where to stand what to say, deliver on the financial investment, all this failed socialism, public investment in the fit, glorious wins for the nation, made to appear like greedy selfish capitalists.
The demonstration of an intuneness with something bigger than yourself where for some reason, and lot's of luck and work, body and wave meet in one long liquid dance of almost spontaneous eruptions of surprise and delight at how the rider rides bare back, buck naked and free. And we get to watch...
Ok maybe my case is closed. On Ya Surfing, for bringing such a tragedy so near, to so many, and yet, the satirical edge to this writing is the fear, that as a Capitalist enterprise, Surfing, World competitions, they have to be milking controversy as a means of appearing relevant to capitalist business's that buy advertising rights to each surfers attached audience, access to their acts and deeds... to sell to.
Why didn't those early surf hippies, smart as they must have been, how did they not amass a fortune in the 80's and 90's to not have had a stock pile of money to build a workers co-op practicing socialism by now. Strange, wake up Rip VAn Dinkle it's time to get on with it. You know, where the owner and boss get no more than the worker who made the profit for the biz. So we can all opt out of capitalism and the racket skimming racism, nationalism, sexism, ageism etc, etc...
Oh and well done to Woman's Surfing for pay equity with men, and beginning to engage with the dark edges of beauty myths, capitalism and sexuality. I think though that a Socialist Woman's Surfing Tour would be top viewing.
Tao Wells
- Wells Tao aw shit, spoken like one of the best skaters I've ever seen
- Dibid Babid Seriously tho Tao are you ge tting amoungst those pumping dunnos beachies?
- Wells Tao Dibid Babid it's in my life. I'm more likely to run along the beach than be in the sea. Trying to get my fitness up. Find it hard to get up, paddle fitness etc, etc. As a full blown surfer addict, I have great difficulty finding a balance with the practice, I love it and hate it. As it absorbs me so much. And when it comes down to it, doesn't add that much to the world. Which might have been it's greatest strength.
- Dibid Babid It adds happy hormones to my bloodstream
A little bit fun amongst the chaos of life - Wells Tao Dibid Babid I'm starting to build that perspective.
- Dibid Babid A drenching in the ocean is soul food
Dosnt matter if you ain't shredding the gnar dude
Flush those sinuses and rejoice in a little bath from ma nature - Wells Tao of course Dibid Babid, I also support the junkie to take up the bowl from now and then, these things don't have to kill you, they can make you stronger. Shit just is
- Anthony Kear John John attacked the lip with more power, had bolder moves! Do you even surf?
- Wells Tao Your need to qualify my opinion with intimate knowledge of my actual history suggests that the details that, only a surfer would know, that I wrote in the above essay, you missed.
As for John John's power lip attack, I had the same boring response to most of Mick Fanning, who's not a skater I don't believe, very much a surfer surfer, however in terms of shear repetition of moves, absence of surprise or invention, he delivered. John John delivers, as I wrote above, just not to the level or direction that I would like to see surfing anchor it's core values to.
Do you follow? - Anthony Kear 1: skateboarding evolved from surfers in the 70's. The moves, the styles, are irrefutably linked! Of course with different tricks.
2: paragraph 3, you tried to make it clear that your rant wasn't about race or colour....complete contradiction to openin…See More - Barry Walsh John John was an unpredictable surfer that always went for the biggest move and nine times out of ten did not get him the points, he has refined his surfing to reach the top of the sport right or wrong he’s still at the top of his game, giving the judges what they want, I hear what your saying about the judges so unpredictable in there scoring, the gold coast comp was a shit decision in the final too
- Wells Tao Barry Walsh Thanks Barry, thanks for engaging in such a controversy, (I say this with slight tongue in mouth, of course, this is just an interesting phenomena I thought worth engaging in, there are dozens and dozens more topics, but I could be that the same points are being engaged in different garb but same flesh). I totally think John John is the best, I'm suggesting that his best has become a tad predictable, when compared to "the Brazilians". And this is where I've tried to demonstrate, perhaps comes from a clash of skateboarding code with surfing code rather due to ethnicity or nationality. I want they to co-exist, but not at the automatic expense of the other. I think surfing, as an industry needs to take back the control of it's impact in the world, lead on sea and water pollution, lead on economic socialist revolution, Lead on egality between genders. This is a risk. I like surfing that looks risky. That may just be me.
- Wells Tao Anthony Kear 1. No shit. 2. what the fuck, who cares. 3 wow you thunk that by yourself, 4. Bullshit
- Wells Tao Anthony Kear whoa, my bad, just took a read of above and did a bit of a severe edit, sorry, was a first draft, I think it reads a little more clearly, especially around certain points of consistency. Enjoy
- Anthony Kear Wells Tao you are all over the show mate! Next time leave ur explosive, reactive comments to children, it suits them better.
- Wells Tao Anthony Kear you are the one with the criticism expressed in a childish manner.
- Wells Tao I have a style of writing that's not yours. So what man.
- Wells Tao You got some of my points.
- Wells Tao Wells done
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Wells Tao 13 hrs · John John Winning Bells Beach Surfing Contest 2019 John John Florence potential usual rich American ripe red neck beating brown Brazilian Filipe Toledo, in the final, I don't know, there sure are some ugly racist nationalism going on in the professional surfing fan world, at the same time, importantly obscuring the fact that what is also being debated, contested is the very nature of surfing, the 'what' is surfing. For I feel that with this collective judges decision, they have voted for surfing to be skateboarding. Toledo was the more dynamic more creative the more in tune with the ocean and his surfing surfer. Predicting what this guy was going to do every time he bottom turned, was impossible. I found myself stunned, met with a dropped jaw, several times because of his inventive engagement, uncanny ability, skill (Medina too! Yes he was robbed by the judges here too! Again consistent with their ideology, surfing is skateboarding) John John is incredibly predictable. Smooth nice to look at, especially in the barrel he is special, but his rate of surprise is I'd state 1/10 of Toledo or Medina. 1 piece of surprise, to their ten. Ok maybe not quite that high, it's still I'd say over 5 times, easily between 5 and ten times. John John has a well timed arc, his three layback snaps and has pulled historically some sick airs, this is to be clear, this is not about their nationality, colour or economic status, this is about two styles, two highly competing and completely opposite styles pf expression, of play. And it's not that Toledo or Medina can't also be shown to have played similar styles as John John, it is a part of contemporary surfing. But does it need some balance. Skateboarding has always been an accurate, trick to acrobatic trick, precise run. It is about whether or not you are going to fall off during the trick that is the deal, Everyone knows that you are doing the trick, you've just practiced it ten times. Surfing is at best a wild and free expression of letting go intune. You don't have to be intune sometime detachment works, however approached like this filling in a pre-made box with no box for risk and new creative responses to ready situations is missing a core value for me. What is being celebrated, real talent to ride a wave, or real talent to ride a wall? There is a difference. Some can see it. Want to see it. So John John, an out and out skate park, ramp enthusiast, champion if not one of the great instigators of skating the wave, surly we are seeing a scoring system that is preferential to his style of surfing, whose predictability enable sit to score more consistently, numbers drop into place, rather than we are see in what I enjoy of surfing, it's inventive spontaneity. It's all surfing, don't let me sound bitter, I accept skating's total right to be here, I'm exploring the right for that to be discussed, for what it means when the best surfer is not rewarded, the best is that which fits the ease of managing the rules. Seems like compared to skating surfers, surfer surfers were, are a bit messy. Difficult to judge, open to too much subjective reasoning. This agonistic gesture on behalf of the surfers rejection of society for the rhythms and servitude to the weather and oceans charms. I consider myself as a Political Artist, a known critic of capitalism, a practicing socialist, part of this tradition, of surfing. I feel that I am looking at a branch of the activity that wants to be an Olympic event. The predictability of the future of surfing is the very point that will allow it to be an Olympic sport. This of course is the true goal of Kelly Slater, right? The Greatest of All Time, eleven time world champion, was not given a gold medal. And now he has built his Olympic wave pool, for qualifying. It's a real dream coming true. And I want to support their right to do it, not at the expense of what I want to see in surfing. As a surfer and a Snowboarder, and a huge fan of the Winter Olympics, I never watch it. It's all too commercial it, feels bought from the beginning, like it's all been arranged, with advertisers, who wins, who cries, where to stand what to say, deliver on the financial investment, all this failed socialism, public investment in the fit, glorious wins for the nation, made to appear like greedy selfish capitalists. The demonstration of an intuneness with something bigger than yourself where for some reason, and lot's of luck and work, body and wave meet in one long liquid dance of almost spontaneous eruptions of surprise and delight at how the rider rides bare back, buck naked and free. And we get to watch... Ok maybe my case is closed. On Ya Surfing, for bringing such a tragedy so near, to so many, and yet, the satirical edge to this writing is the fear, that as a Capitalist enterprise, Surfing, World competitions, they have to be milking controversy as a means of appearing relevant to capitalist business's that buy advertising rights to each surfers attached audience, access to their acts and deeds... to sell to. Why didn't those early surf hippies, smart as they must have been, how did they not amass a fortune in the 80's and 90's to not have had a stock pile of money to build a workers co-op practicing socialism by now. Strange, wake up Rip VAn Dinkle it's time to get on with it. You know, where the owner and boss get no more than the worker who made the profit for the biz. So we can all opt out of capitalism and the racket skimming racism, nationalism, sexism, ageism etc, etc... Oh and well done to Woman's Surfing for pay equity with men, and beginning to engage with the dark edges of beauty myths, capitalism and sexuality. I think though that a Socialist Woman's Surfing Tour would be top viewing. Tao Wells 1Jason Muir 20 Comments Like Comment Share Comments Dibid Babid Dibid Babid Do you even surf? Stick to your pro Maori white apologist anti hydro carbon don't drill capitalism hate😉 1 Haha · Reply · 6h Wells Tao Wells Tao aw shit, spoken like one of the best skaters I've ever seen Like · Reply · 2h Dibid Babid Dibid Babid Seriously tho Tao are you ge tting amoungst those pumping dunnos beachies? Like · Reply · 1h Wells Tao Wells Tao Dibid Babid it's in my life. I'm more likely to run along the beach than be in the sea. Trying to get my fitness up. Find it hard to get up, paddle fitness etc, etc. As a full blown surfer addict, I have great difficulty finding a balance with the practice, I love it and hate it. As it absorbs me so much. And when it comes down to it, doesn't add that much to the world. Which might have been it's greatest strength. Like · Reply · 1h Dibid Babid Dibid Babid It adds happy hormones to my bloodstream A little bit fun amongst the chaos of life 1 Love · Reply · 1h Wells Tao Wells Tao Dibid Babid I'm starting to build that perspective. Like · Reply · 1h Dibid Babid Dibid Babid A drenching in the ocean is soul food Dosnt matter if you ain't shredding the gnar dude Flush those sinuses and rejoice in a little bath from ma nature 1 Like · Reply · 1h Wells Tao Wells Tao of course Dibid Babid, I also support the junkie to take up the bowl from now and then, these things don't have to kill you, they can make you stronger. Shit just is Like · Reply · 1m Wells Tao Write a reply... Anthony KearActive Now Anthony Kear John John attacked the lip with more power, had bolder moves! Do you even surf? Like · Reply · 6h Hide 11 Replies Wells Tao Wells Tao Your need to qualify my opinion with intimate knowledge of my actual history suggests that the details that, only a surfer would know, that I wrote in the above essay, you missed. As for John John's power lip attack, I had the same boring response to most of Mick Fanning, who's not a skater I don't believe, very much a surfer surfer, however in terms of shear repetition of moves, absence of surprise or invention, he delivered. John John delivers, as I wrote above, just not to the level or direction that I would like to see surfing anchor it's core values to. Do you follow? Like · Reply · 2h Anthony KearActive Now Anthony Kear 1: skateboarding evolved from surfers in the 70's. The moves, the styles, are irrefutably linked! Of course with different tricks. 2: paragraph 3, you tried to make it clear that your rant wasn't about race or colour....complete contradiction to openin…See More 1 Sad · Reply · 1h Barry Walsh Barry Walsh John John was an unpredictable surfer that always went for the biggest move and nine times out of ten did not get him the points, he has refined his surfing to reach the top of the sport right or wrong he’s still at the top of his game, giving the judges what they want, I hear what your saying about the judges so unpredictable in there scoring, the gold coast comp was a shit decision in the final too 1 Love · Reply · 1h Wells Tao Wells Tao Barry Walsh Thanks Barry, thanks for engaging in such a controversy, (I say this with slight tongue in mouth, of course, this is just an interesting phenomena I thought worth engaging in, there are dozens and dozens more topics, but I could be that the same points are being engaged in different garb but same flesh). I totally think John John is the best, I'm suggesting that his best has become a tad predictable, when compared to "the Brazilians". And this is where I've tried to demonstrate, perhaps comes from a clash of skateboarding code with surfing code rather due to ethnicity or nationality. I want they to co-exist, but not at the automatic expense of the other. I think surfing, as an industry needs to take back the control of it's impact in the world, lead on sea and water pollution, lead on economic socialist revolution, Lead on egality between genders. This is a risk. I like surfing that looks risky. That may just be me. Like · Reply · 1h Wells Tao Wells Tao Anthony Kear 1. No shit. 2. what the fuck, who cares. 3 wow you thunk that by yourself, 4. Bullshit Like · Reply · 1h Wells Tao Wells Tao Anthony Kear whoa, my bad, just took a read of above and did a bit of a severe edit, sorry, was a first draft, I think it reads a little more clearly, especially around certain points of consistency. Enjoy Like · Reply · 55m Anthony KearActive Now Anthony Kear Wells Tao you are all over the show mate! Next time leave ur explosive, reactive comments to children, it suits them better. Like · Reply · 42m Wells Tao Wells Tao Anthony Kear you are the one with the criticism expressed in a childish manner. Like · Reply · 1m Wells Tao Wells Tao I have a style of writing that's not yours. So what man. Like · Reply · 1m Wells Tao Wells Tao You got some of my points. Like · Reply · 1m Wells Tao Wells Tao Wells done Like · Reply · 1m