- I disagree with those supporting Chris Brown to come here. He is not a model for reformed behaviour. He has not truly changed. His primary motivation is to make money, not to help whanau through abuse. We have our own people with violent pasts who have paid heavy prices, the sort of prices you should pay when you can't afford megabucks lawyers like Chris Brown can. They have done the mahi to truly begin restoring justice for their whanau. I'd prefer we aid them to talk to our rangatahi. And yep I would say this for all celebrity violent abusers, not just the black ones. Sheesh.
- Rangi Rawhiti HeMorehu Au heart emoticon
- Bob Renatz Give him the iggy ban the cretin just because his music sucks and everything he stands for sux too.....we dont need anymore Murcan street bullshit here there's already too much if that crap
- Andy Reid So domestic violence is OK as long as you repent?
- Marama Davidson Absolutely not.
- Gillian Parnham Thank you for saying this
- Chris Ford Glad we agree on something for a change marama, have a wonderful weekend
- Marama Davidson have a great weekend Chris.
- Muriel Tunoho Spot on Marama! Tautoko too.
- Robyn Hancock What I find truly fascinating is if this so called reformed man has made such a personal metamorphosis, then why are we only hearing of this hikoi now. Surely a man who loves the limelight would want the whole media community aware of such a magnificent breakthrough. Perhaps he'd like to list all the women's health and victim support charities hes donated to. Let's see what you say about that Christopher. X
- Hoana Toi This is not good. What was she thinking.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/.../brown-thanks-nz's-'strong-women'American singer Chris Brown has tweeted his thanks to several high-profile Maori women who have called for…radionz.co.nz - Sindbad Bulidon Sorry but domestic violence is not ok in any circumstance. But i really feel that this is all beside the point. Looking at people and saying he's bad or she is psycho for instance is not the answer. The beginning of the cycle of abuse starts well befor...See More
- Marama Davidson Where on earth is anyone saying that domestic violence is okay ever?
- Chahat Hauf Good on you Marama I totally see at this way
- Moko Tauariki Would an interview around domestic violence suffice where he clearly acknowledges that it is not OK?
Secondly, if he were to make a fiscal contribution to Womens refuge, would we be OK for him to still come? - Marama Davidson Personally no. It is about us having heard from either victims or respected anti-violence agencies in the US that he is truly ready to be a contributor to such a campaign. And that this is an actual campaign against violence as opposed to a commercial making money venture for promoters with the exploitation of anti-violence messaging on the sideline.
- Hoana Toi No I don't believe so.
- Jeremy Bioletti Sorry I completely disagree. Its saying to people that there is no point in trying to change cos no matter what you will never be forgiven. Its easier to understand what Tariana and June are saying when you have done something wrong yourself.
- Marama Davidson Cept did you not even read the part where I acknowledged that we have our own with violent pasts who should be role models? That is - who could be respected for having done the journey? Did you like totally not read that part?
- Sina Brown-Davis Tautoko what also is annoying with those women supporting chris brown is don't they realise they have trampled on all the women he abused, like rhianna , how they have trampled on all our wahine getting the bash. Where were the lot of them talking out ...See More
- Steve Raukawa He has nothing to offer anyone here re insight into violence this is HIS MAJOR transgression and why doesn't he fund non violence projects in the USA would indicate some contrition. I couldn't be bothered with him floating in and then out as though he is a great. We have enough of our own home grown.
- Lyn Cross Would tbey let a nz convicted felon visit usa i dont think so
- Owen Harrison It is everyday people that can bring change and usually are the ones that do bring change. Some by speaking up, some by not turning a blind eye. Aid the locals and if the message can reach the young through music, we have the performers.
- Tania Aroha Total support for your position Marama. I couldn't agree more. Thanks for advocating the alternative (some would say common sense) view.
- Don Miller Kim Hill allowed Tariana Turia to make a total ass of herself on this topic this morning. Thanks for being onto it Marama.
- Mikee Tucker I agree
- Pat-Allan Thomson Sorry but if he was Joe Bloggs wanting to come to NZ he would not be allowed in with criminal convictions so why discriminate! Same rule should apply for all no matter who you are.
- Harry Young I can't understand why there is any demand to see a prick like that.
- Michael Karl Wayne Andrews In this interview he openly laughs at the attack and tells us he's sick of hearing about it and that he's moved on. Then prompts to promote his new album before throwing furniture around near the end. Role model for how to end up in jail perhaps? disgraceful.
- Marama Davidson Kia ora everyone. This should be a safe space for commentary even if we don't agree, kei te pai.
I am also not interested in being disrespectful to Tariana and all the wahine who are supporting the CB tour. I respect the amazing mahi they have done for our people. I simply disagree with them on this. Nga mihi. - Phe Renata I agree. Chris Brown only recently was caught on video aggressively pushing his way into Tarruches vehicle where she had left a friends event because of his turning up to harass her. Clearly shows me that he's still aggressive, jealous and abusive towa...See More
- Emily Karaka Mr Chris Brown's not welcome in my book we and Ive already had enough of our own bully Mr Browns thankyou very much pono Marama Davidson
- Cindy Kawana Kia ora Marama at last an opinion from someoe who really understands the journey towards healing/ reformation for whanau (abusers and victims). If only people would stop and concider what these people believe this looks like then many would have different views. Keep on doing what ya do and honouring "those" voices x
- Marama Davidson Kia ora Cindy and what you would understand is that, actually we all have other important things to do including in the area of DV work. It is actually sort of hoha having to carve out time to respond to this publicity stunt, but we are now having to f...See More
- Alannagh Donegan I found it sad that in this whole thing no one has ever once talked about the victims
- Marama Davidson absolutely agree Alannagh. Before this all came to light, I was asked in confidence "what is my stance on male offenders of domestic violence six years later that have shown remorse and not been a reoffender" and I am disappointed that this person was ...See More
- George Tupaea Kia ora marama I'm not a great fan of his maybe the music I love belongs to his ancestrals haha yowzah
- Bruce Woodward It's time people took ownership for mistakes they make in life ,time or saying sorry doesn't fix it
- Lavinia Heihei-wikaira Yesssss I was eagerly awaiting your comment in this xxx as usual you didn't disappoint
- Tinika Hohaia Ea leave Chris n Rihana alone...typical nz media...they'd betray even our own...nothing else positive to talk about useless reporters...
- Marama Davidson Yep the Dames have created this publicity frenzy actually. They called for it.
They should have just stayed out of Chris' problems. It wasn't ours to get involved in but now they've involved us all. Ea.
- Raiha Fredricsen tautoko .. the dames are dancing to the wrong tune!
- Jill MacGregor Well said David.....It should be a privilege to come to NZ, and this disgusting person does not deserve it. smile emoticon
- Marjorie MacLean Thank you marama. Im deeply disappointed with Tariana and co. But i am not surprised- she is very conservative and deeply reflexive and overly protective about what she percieves to be maori traditions. This presents as a form of stockhausen syndrome- ...See More
- Russell Malcolm He is not a roll model for a society in any form. Lets offer a safe havent to Bradley Manning Or Edward Snowden.
- Renee Liang embarrassing how the people that should be leading us are kowtowing just coz he's famous.
- Rosemarie Kingi Rewa He's a singer, a musician, people know of him for this reason. Sort our own b/s out like those who get name suppression for being pedophiles SHEEZ!!
- Stephen James Duncan I am not knowledgeable here, but seems two separate agendas are being advanced 1. To come here on the back of a music-genre, which is commercial only 2. To do this to convince those who must authorise, ref our laws, his past is irrelevant to this prima...See More
- Wells Tao Well if celebrity is too low a status, wealth to much a discount for existing with the history of violence, why don't we start with politicians. eh Marama Davidson. Yeah let's shut it down all this money making and listening to people willing to talk about their struggle with the culturally endorsed and taught behavior of violence. Let's keep the mystique and aura around it, teach our kids where the bad arses are and what they mean.
- Marama Davidson forgive me I am really struggling to understand what you are saying?
- Marama Davidson He can talk about whatever he wants. We don't have to go out of our way to get an exemption visa for him to do it. He needs to do it in his own communities. Our own role models are right here yo! Plus he's not reformed yet.
- Marama Davidson I've done due diligence, he ain't there yet. Please read the part of my status again where I say this is about profit for him, not supporting an anti-violence campaign, He is only wanting to add on the anti-violence stuff so he can get a visa and make money. That in itself says he needs to learn a whole lot.
- Marama Davidson well exploiting DV campaigns ain't one of them, sorry.
- Marama Davidson um how about victims who get beaten up being a really clear indicator of a fail.
- Marama Davidson that doesn't make him reformed immediately. Just because he was a victim. That doesn't automatically make him reformed. Not for a second.
- Marama Davidson oh ffs, there are plenty of places to learn without CB. CB not coming here is a really poor excuse to not learn.
- Marama Davidson If you are genuinely interested in supporting, learning and aiding anti-violence, I can genuinely point you in a million directions closer to home. If you just want CB to come then I ain't helping with that and then you really don't want to learn.
- Marama Davidson well, I'm hoha, to be honest. sorry if that was rude. But making excuses to not support anti-violence campaigns annoys me
- Marama Davidson I pull people's arguments apart, yep. Keep up lol
- Marama Davidson done here. Thanks though smile emoticon
- Steve Raukawa @ Wells Tao re your comment " the perpetrator of violence is also a victim" Chris Brown, doesn't look like he has got better just bitter, he past behavior is an indicator of future as is those who grass hopper around either continuing to be violent wit...See More
- Wells Tao Any way my vague point was something about how that Boxer was kept out when he wanted to talk to kids about violence and his rape. Was he allowed in? I 'm not sure.. but to hassle a singer for making money and wanting to talk about his personal issues second, seems I dunno judgmental to me. Like the guys a good capitalist. Can we move on? Next you'll be hassling John Kirwan
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- Steve Raukawa I think this illustrates the harm of abuse with violence in relationships from the physical attack by Chris Brown to his then partner and this 85 year old Auckland woman crushed by her partners comments re her absolute talent. DV crushes people and fam...See More
- Steve Raukawa Not reformed no room for him here "March 17, 2014" "A judge has ordered Chris Brown to be held in jail until his next court hearing. That hearing is currently scheduled for April 23rd, meaning Chris Brown will be behind bars for at least a month.
Brow...See MoreA judge has ordered Chris Brown to be held in jail until his next court hearing. That hearing is currently…hlntv.com - George Tupaea Don't pay any attention marama my love. People are just winding you up with negativety your views on that full CB is your own opinion which is your Wright yowzah
- Wells Tao just sends all the wrong messages in my opinion, about violence. If we cared about it, we'd let him in and make him feel our desire for him to grow, learn change.. Instead all this hate just fuels the misunderstanding that fuels all are local examples... punishes the unseen, the hidden. I say let him face the music, as it is for example on this page of lovers, supporters of banning greedy rock star. Let's see it, give him something that might make a difference... who knows.. Ah that's it right, we'll don't want to know.
- Marama Davidson nah I'm pretty disgusted that we would join in on what is all about money actually. Wrong.
- Marama Davidson The wrong message is that we get sucked into celebrity status, that there is the wrong message.
- Marama Davidson who the hell is Johnny? I never said it was good enough for any of them, ban em all!
- Marama Davidson who? Frig I wasn't the one wavng that banner, go ask them.
- Wells Tao "Any way my vague point was something about how that Boxer was kept out when he wanted to talk to kids about violence and his rape. Was he allowed in? I 'm not sure.. but to hassle a singer for making money and wanting to talk about his personal issues second, seems I dunno judgmental to me. Like the guys a good capitalist. Can we move on? Next you'll be hassling John Kirwan?"
- Marama Davidson And now you're wasting my time I'm a douche for responding go away please.
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Saturday, October 3, 2015
Marama Davidson and I on Face Crack. And the difficulty of challenging the herd anytime, anyplace.
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