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Pippa Sanderson why is it not the same?

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Don Franks

Murray Kilpatrick why it is not the same ; because the first is a reference to women and girls suffering rape and the second is a reference to an overwhelmingly socially accepted medical protection against an epidemic

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Don Franks could you please tell me what vaccines actually do

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Don Franks

You'd do better to ask a medical person Murray. To be honest I've taken various vaccinations through my life as an act of faith in modern medicine. Several friends of mine take a different view on vaccination and I respect their opinions and right to broadcast them.

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Don Franks hi Don first of all happy new year. I do hope the running and music are all going well? Im not a medical person either. And yes I've been vaxed for a variety of illnesses throughout my life we are both double covid vaxed. However. Vaccinatio…

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Don Franks

Best for 2022 to you too Murray, yes, all going good over here thanks and looking forward to a bit of a jam with you when circumstances allow.

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Murray Kilpatrick vaccines reduce the likelihood that you will catch a disease or be severely affected by it. The Pfizer vaccine does that by introducing your immune system to the messenger RNA that produces the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2. It's not a traditional vaccine. This one is like a little blueprint that teaches your immune system how to respond when the real thing comes along. Robert Malone did early work on mRNA technology, but it's incorrect to say that he "invented" the vaccine. His recent statements are rather confused and ambiguous and are not taken seriously by most experts in the field. It's much safer just to accept that our public health officials are not incompetent or dishonest and are dealing with an uncertain situation as well as can reasonably be expected. Much safer than picking out plausible contrarians like Dr Campbell, who claims not to be biased but clearly is.

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Pippa Sanderson one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Ross McComish one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Don Franks one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Ross McComish we all have our truths. I'll accept that you have yours.

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Murray Kilpatrick one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Ross McComish what do most of dr Campbells vids comprise of?

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Murray Kilpatrick is that a rhetorical question?

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Ross McComish no im asking you describe what you have seen when you have viewed John Campbells utubes

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Murray Kilpatrick I've already told you what I've seen. It's not something I want to spend any more time on

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Ross McComish have you viewed his videos through to the end

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Murray Kilpatrick Not all of them, of course. Enough to decide that I prefer to follow government policies based on the best available expert advice, rather than the hobby horses of a retired nurse.

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Ross McComish as I said. We all hold our own truths. You are certainly entitled to yours. Have a wonderful night.

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Thanks, Murray. And, as jesting Pilate is said to have said, "What is truth?" And, like him, not waiting for an answer . . .

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Ross McComish a very good idea. Have a lovely night.

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Wells Tao I don't know how to calculate the likelihood of that

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Ross McComish fair enough

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James Woods

Wells Tao I think that's a bit of a moot point: Ebola came about due to us encroaching on primate's natural environment so much that the simian hemorrhagic virus mutated (as they do) to work on the other large population available - us. So whether covid came about directly from us experimenting in a lab, indirectly from us bringing large groups of animals together in hot spots to breed disease (I mean the wet markets) or as a side effect of us encroaching on the natural world to a massive degree, the end result is: We caused it.

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James Woods its very interesting that apparently Omicron has mutated from the origins virus. Not from Delta which was the monopoly mutation in South Africa at the time the mutation seems to have developed. I suppose lots of possible scenarios?

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James Woods yeah that's a tad romantic for me. Lol but I do love a good moot! Nice one.

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Murray Kilpatrick yes I like the idea that mutations don't have to get worse, that statistically infact they are (i'm guessing here) get weaker

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Holy Mother Of False Equivalences

Murray Kilpatrick and I'd just like to say thank you for being so brave and truthful, for sticking your neck out and participating in this little survey. I really do appreciate it. Not an easy thing to do. People I thought though have been pretty nice, on the whole, I mean I've seen some real scenes of terror visiting others pages, yuck. I've deleted a lot of the quickfire narrssists however, over the last two years.

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Tara Dalefield

Tara Dalefield one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Tara Dalefield

It's naturally occurring! It was a bat virus before it started infecting humans.

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right. That idea has been seriously eroded in terms of credibility or likely hood.

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Tara Dalefield

GIF may contain Confused, meme, girl, uhmmm and What Now

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Tara Dalefield I know right, often called the rabbit hole, but we are all at various and different states in one rabbit hole or another, mud slinging is too easy. I like a generous listener but not a fool. I'm not going to put the cat back into the bag. The cat is out. I've heard too much and I'm experimenting with what I think about it.

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Matt Gibson

That is offensive to every man woman and Trans person that has been raped

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Matt Gibson one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Kyle Webster

Anti-vax drivvle

Kyle Webster one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Tāne Feary

This is bad taste.

Tāne Feary one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Steve Wrigley

According to this appallingly bad taste and half baked meme, people can get a religious or medical exemption from being sexually assaulted at work.

Try to care before you share my dude.

Steve Wrigley don't think medical or religous excemptions are enough for jobs that require the jab my brother, but do correct me if I'm wrong.

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Steve Wrigley one question, is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Tina Rae

This post is fucked. There is no way you can liken being vaccinated against a deadly virus with being raped. I cannot even begin to express how offensive this is to my very core

I'm sorry you feel that way. It's a difficult point not easily said but obviously I feel it's important to say. As someone who has been raped I take it seriously

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one question, in your opinion is Covid likely to be man made or naturally occurring?

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Ron Drummond

Mother Nature has all the smarts and means she needs to concoct precisely this sort of disease to cull the human species -- and worse.

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Ron Drummond yeah that's one idea out there for sure.

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Benjamin Parsons

Public health

Benjamin Parsons yes, what is that?

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Benjamin Parsons

Something that requires cooperative effort

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Benjamin Parsons and how do you get cooperation between the self entitled privileged and the oppressed honest ignorant?

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Lindsay Fog

there's always the possibility that our world leaders have been misled by the pharmaceutical industry spokespeople, people who up until now had a certain amount of credibility. otherwise how do we explain the apparent turn around in their policies?

I'm referring to the fact we went to level 4 when we had 1 case and now we have opened the country to domestic travel during the outbreak with 100 new cases a day at times.

I'm trying to be generous here as jacinda bashing isn't my thing

Lindsay Fog No bashing isn't my thing either, I appreciate that, but I think it's time I put my thinking cap on, and perhaps there's a mess of us wanting to do that, and take a good look at what's going down. See what we actually make of it

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Timothy McMullen

Many others have covered the false equivalency with rape, so I'm going to frame the problem with the meme another way: Is it "coercion" if my employer says, "You can't show up to work drunk"?

Timothy McMullen sorry my man, that didn't make any sense to me

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Deth Bethlehem

cause thems the rules where we are