- Dick Frizzell This is a very peculiar post, Barry. Duchamp was reacting to and against a very different art racket than the one we're confronted with nowadays. The avant garde is now the Academy.
- Wells Tao Dick Frizzell well for my money, the title avant-garde is taken by the academy, the Academics and your capitalists, but only the masses are fooled.
Wells Tao Barry Thomas
"you do and you perpetuate the game... " yeah but if you and the rest
would god damn it pay attention. I have shifted the goal posts. As A
fucking Welfare Artist, WHO PUBLICLY Acknowledges a role in society, I
AM NOT A CAPITALIST, like you and the
rest, as The rich were so able to paint and treat me as a Welfare
Artist, public enemy No. 1. Get that in your meaty heads. I perpetuate
art, but as one of the first NZ artists to LEAVE ART, as status quo
capitalist perpetuation, and perpetuate SOCIALIST ART. I'm a threat like
most can't even grasp. They let you in , they get a lot of wacky art.
They let me in, and they let in a bludging socialist. Really different
kind of stain.
Wells Tao You
know I enjoy your work and others. But at the end of the day, there's a
great deal of innovative critical work out there, and it's not shifted
shit. A movement is big, popular and understood. Art on the level of
propaganda for socialist values is best
exemplified art that is made by practicing socialists. They have the
experience to know what they are talking about. We have an experience to
de code that's not a book theory, but a practice.
Wells Tao I'm
not asking for anyone to agree with me. I have settled for a lot less
than that. I'd take just considered engagement with. And being of the
stinky undead, having been contaminated by the stench of poverty, and
having been so clean once, I feel I know
a little about the degree of difficulty I've put myself in. Be a lot
easier to take lessons from a model heralded as a system success. And I
am, in away a success. But of what System! Let's call a cow a cow.
Duchamp's spanner in the works, for me was to dare to see what already
exists, not to invent anything new. The act of bringing to bare a
picture of a society on it self posed great dangers to the artist, who
is narking on all fellow art grifters, and system itself, having
received it's full stop, there's a tendency, a feeling that this should
stop. And it kind of did, very few, not enough of a movement took up
Beauys task, taken over from Duchamp of re imagining the role of art. I
have taken it to a point, where its economics speaks before it can. That
there is no separate aloof voice of art, the frame does not render
invisible or silent. No I hear the sound of that frame. And hear what it
is saying to me. Foe.
Dick Frizzell Wells Tao
Nice letter, Wells! if you feel you've backed yourself into a
go-nowhere corner with your current art practice, you should turn around
and write a book. Seriously! Use your words!
Wells Tao Dick Frizzell
thanks. I'd love to write a book, but I'm distracted by the thought,
that the writers I like, wrote books because no one would listen to
them. Books in this view, perhaps the last refuge of the damned. There
are seductive writers who assemble vast tracts of thought like nets
folded from enormous seas, but their effortlessness hides for me that
they are (generally well positioned. I spend all my time trying to
maintain my position. I wonder if they would write instead on facebook
or instagram or whatever instead. There's never been a format for
'artists' like it.
Barry Thomas Wells Tao yep I agree with Dick.
You have fought some pretty big battles... Enemies... Idiots.
I don't 'buy' your basic severing of yourself from art, other artists and it your somewhat mixed need logic rationale to put yourself as so separate, important, unique.
But as duck suggests writing it all out coherently may we'll help... If nothing else it'll help sort out your next moves...
And lastly... It's good you've had your look bc at me rave... Now...
How did duchamp forsee the end of capitalism?
You have fought some pretty big battles... Enemies... Idiots.
I don't 'buy' your basic severing of yourself from art, other artists and it your somewhat mixed need logic rationale to put yourself as so separate, important, unique.
But as duck suggests writing it all out coherently may we'll help... If nothing else it'll help sort out your next moves...
And lastly... It's good you've had your look bc at me rave... Now...
How did duchamp forsee the end of capitalism?
Wells Tao Clearly
I am backed into corner, it's been awkward but rewarding pointing out
who and what is backing me up, the you and the you's. My visibility as a
welfare artist, coule be a a tipping point. Are we allowed to be free,
did we vote on this, is it ok? To volunteer your effort. Is there a
system that sees and recognizes that? It's a crack that lets the light
in to what has been considered normal practice, and an opportunity to
reexamine this capitalist habit from novelty of something new. i offer a
choice, you are mistaken if I think it's an easy one. Only a simple
one.
Wells Tao "
your basic severing of yourself from art, other artists" it it hard to
see my particular whiteness. If I was different from you physically
perhaps it would be easier for you to accept my experience and rational
as different. The urge to refuse difference is a strong one, no one
wants one one to escape from the herd, especially if they might have or
be having more fun than we are! That is what leaving capitalism and
capitalist art does for me. More fun. Real fun. Fun not brought to you
by Captial C. So freeing! I feel free enough to stand up and defend
what has been abused and left undefended, and yet at the very heart of
Democratic expressions of free will. "Suitable' employment and personal
expression. All these arguments you agree with, and still I am stuck
debating such base points. If anything it is the reactionary gag refusal
of those looking for new to see it, for the alchemy of change implied
is frightening! This tender moment, has me bound to you and the
audience, like a bewildered mother. Trapped in a role they asked for,
trained to do. Still bewildered. I think we could do better.
Wells Tao There
is no end to capitalism. Capitalism THRIVES on collapse. The 'Ghost' of
Capitalism will simply haunt socialism if it is destroyed. You can,
however compete and beat capitalism for profit to spend democratically,
from the market, from competing and beating other businesses at
producing profit as socialists. What that profit is, differs from
capitalists, how that profit is spent is different from capitalists.
This ability to choose a capitalist product from a socialist one, is the
future I am drawing down.
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