- Dick Frizzell Bloody hard to qualify...you could be a 'struggling' songwtiter...or you could be Lorde...or you could be a put upon film maker ...or you could be Taika! How do you do it?
- Dick Frizzell Not sure about the 'be friends with' bit...how do you figure THAT out?
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Kim Lowe Dick Frizzell its like any other business, it's the community that determines where the $$ are spent and who gets funded. Some people have that ability to win contracts better than others. Other artists just keep making work in a vacuum or putting it into the universe via Instgrm and hope someone is going to see it. - Dick Frizzell Knowing the 'right' people is the same as knowing the 'right' anything! Fabricators, printers, writers, Dealers, suppliers...it's just a part of art practice. if you never figure that out you shouldn't be in the business! Context, craft, history...all of it.You have to know it. You have to make it your business to know it...and then the vacuum disappears.
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Delaney Davidson Dick Frizzell same for most self employed or small business owner operaters. It’s (literally) our business to know. The arts isn’t something you get to apply for a position in after study. You try to set yourself up over time. I’m not sure that knowing…See More - Jenny Purchase But if you're not in 'the groove' i.e. don't have the connections, aren't into the 'I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine' artiface of it all, how do you make it then? There are thousands of accomplished artists/performers/writers out there who never make it because they aren't in the inner circle and the gate-keepers won't let them in. Unless they get lucky.
- Jenny Purchase Anne Dillon Yes, confidence and a bit of cheek helps! Also resilience, as most are knocked back time and time again. But if you want it enough, if you believe in your art and its value, if holding down a day job to make ends meet doesn't sap your energy too much, maybe, just maybe, you'll get there. Or maybe you still won't. Ergo Blake, van Gough, Kafka, Poe, Wilde. I could go on
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Anne Dillon Jenny Purchase Sorry Jenny, deleted my post 😁. But yes, we agree! - Replied to Jenny Purchase
Wells Tao Jenny Purchase, you see Dick Frizzell, Delaney Davidson and all successful artist are Capitalists. They think their the bee's knees' cause they've succeed and like any white business man love pointing out 'how it really works'. When all they really did is bring a commodity to the table that wouldn't upset anyone. - Replied to Jenny Purchase
Wells Tao The fact that one of our biggest public investment in the arts, University Fine Art Departments, get to promote themselves as 'independent artists' is a broad day light crime, and a broad piss in the face of transparency. Which robs our real communities of leadership and a visible economic path. - Replied to you
Kim Lowe Wells Tao didn't you complete a degree from a university/ possibly a post graduate degree? You're part of the system too and most likely developed the competence and ability to articulate the work you do and its context because you have been part of that system. I think unless an artist has family support/ wealth or connections this is the best way to develop a network in the industry. - Reply
- Dick Frizzell That's because it's complete nonsense Wells.
- Replied to Dick FrizzellWells Tao the idea and practice of "family support/ wealth or connections this is the best way to develop a network in the industry" made sense to me, I heard her say "WEALTH" is the network of the industry. That was very clear. What I didn't understand was her weak proposition " I think" as an opening statement. I wanted her to restate the assertion.
- Roger Boyce I'd rather public-funded arts organizations - such as Creative New Zealand - not bother undertaking these studies. I've seen such studies come and go in the last 50 years, to what end? Entities such as Creative New Zealand, and organizations like it are a growth sector in the arts. I imagine a median income well above $35,800 per annum would be the norm for administrators at Creative New Zealand and organizations much like it.
- Dick Frizzell it's like the people selling the shovels made more money than the people digging for the gold.
- Dick Frizzell Unless one miner out of hundreds struck gold. it's a fabulous analogy!
Monday, October 14, 2019
I'd like to see public- funded arts organizations openly support those who identify as artists on welfare and superannuation. And simply acknowledged that A democratic economy exists for those who volunteer their services with out capitalist market validation. - Wells Tao
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